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gnaughty
Jeremy J. Swarm
2006-06-22 21:01:26 UTC
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The gnaughty page tells me that the debian packages for the app were
compiled with ubuntu, will run on ubuntu, and not necessarily for other
systems. here's the question, then... why can't i get the latest deb
(1.1.1) to run at all? all i get are gtk errors...
Troy Piggins
2006-06-23 03:48:36 UTC
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Post by Jeremy J. Swarm
The gnaughty page tells me that the debian packages for the app were
compiled with ubuntu, will run on ubuntu, and not necessarily for other
systems. here's the question, then... why can't i get the latest deb
(1.1.1) to run at all? all i get are gtk errors...
No real help to you, but I just pissed my pants laughing at some of
the entries in the screenshots on gnaughty's homepage.

If you were a software developer would you post this to sell your
product? :

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Christofer C. Bell
2006-06-23 06:20:44 UTC
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Post by Troy Piggins
If you were a software developer would you post this to sell your
http://gnaughty.sourceforge.net/screenshots/gnaughty-0.6.png
Well, it *is* called gnaughty, what else would you expect? If I was a
software developer selling a product intended to put sex on the user's
desktop, then yes, I see benefit to screenshots like that with the aim
of increasing demand for my product.
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Jeremy J. Swarm
2006-06-26 01:46:28 UTC
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this is all the help i get, then?
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Chris Neary
2006-06-26 11:37:09 UTC
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I'm guessing the project's website is possibly NSFW, so I can't check the
page out at the moment, but is there a development snapshot or an older
version you can possibly try out? I had the same problem with PuTTY which I
use to access Linux boxes from Redmond machines when it's necessary to use
them - the stable version just wouldn't work at all (some obscure API error)
but the development snapshot worked a charm.

Failing that, you can try installing from source, if you're happy with that.
If you've not done so already you'll need to install the compilation tools -
gcc, g++, autoconf, automake etc. All available in Synaptic.

All the best.
Post by Jeremy J. Swarm
this is all the help i get, then?
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Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 01:20:44 -0500
Subject: Re: gnaughty
Post by Troy Piggins
If you were a software developer would you post this to sell your
http://gnaughty.sourceforge.net/screenshots/gnaughty-0.6.png
Well, it *is* called gnaughty, what else would you expect? If I was a
software developer selling a product intended to put sex on the user's
desktop, then yes, I see benefit to screenshots like that with the aim
of increasing demand for my product.
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trust the Republicans to take away my freedom, which I cannot."
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Chris Neary
2006-06-26 11:41:28 UTC
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Actually, as a bit of a l'esprit d'escalier, it might be worthwhile checking
your GTK is up-to-date (and that gnaughty requires the up-to-date version
rather than GTK 1.*. As I said I can't check out the screenshots where I am
right now, so I have no idea). I'm guessing since you're actually getting
GTK errors, the deb installs just fine, but it's the application itself once
installed that is buggy, so there's no point me suggesting you have all -dev
packages installed alongside GTK itself. Couldn't hurt, though.

Chris
Post by Chris Neary
I'm guessing the project's website is possibly NSFW, so I can't check the
page out at the moment, but is there a development snapshot or an older
version you can possibly try out? I had the same problem with PuTTY which I
use to access Linux boxes from Redmond machines when it's necessary to use
them - the stable version just wouldn't work at all (some obscure API error)
but the development snapshot worked a charm.
Failing that, you can try installing from source, if you're happy with
that. If you've not done so already you'll need to install the compilation
tools - gcc, g++, autoconf, automake etc. All available in Synaptic.
All the best.
Post by Jeremy J. Swarm
this is all the help i get, then?
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Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 01:20:44 -0500
Subject: Re: gnaughty
Post by Jeremy J. Swarm
If you were a software developer would you post this to sell your
http://gnaughty.sourceforge.net/screenshots/gnaughty-0.6.png
Well, it *is* called gnaughty, what else would you expect? If I was a
software developer selling a product intended to put sex on the user's
desktop, then yes, I see benefit to screenshots like that with the aim
of increasing demand for my product.
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trust the Republicans to take away my freedom, which I cannot."
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Derek Broughton
2006-06-26 12:38:55 UTC
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Post by Jeremy J. Swarm
this is all the help i get, then?
How can you expect help? You've told us you have a problem with an obscure
package, but you've provided _no_ diagnostics, and then you don't provide
any context in follow-up messages. You have to help us to help you.
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Chris Neary
2006-06-27 20:24:03 UTC
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Well, I installed it to find out. Derek, he might not have given the
usual bare minimum of diagnostics but at least he tried. I was on the
lookout for GTK errors which led me to think that either Jeremy's GTK
was out of date or too new, or the application was arguing with itself
over deprecated GTK syntax or something like that.

I was close - the answer is that the .deb file installs the Glade file
in /usr/share/gnaughty/glade/gnaughty.glade but the application looks
for it in /usr/local/share/gnaughty/glade/gnaughty.glade.

So to make it load:

Code:
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sudo ln -s /usr/share/gnaughty/ /usr/local/share/gnaughty/
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You could also copy the files over to the correct directory, but this
way is much more 'unixey' and 'correct'. :-)

So. have um. Fun with gnaughty, I guess.

Chris
Post by Derek Broughton
Post by Jeremy J. Swarm
this is all the help i get, then?
How can you expect help? You've told us you have a problem with an obscure
package, but you've provided _no_ diagnostics, and then you don't provide
any context in follow-up messages. You have to help us to help you.
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Derek Broughton
2006-06-28 15:17:43 UTC
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Post by Chris Neary
Well, I installed it to find out.
Above and beyond the call, Chris :-)
Post by Chris Neary
Derek, he might not have given the
usual bare minimum of diagnostics but at least he tried.
I just get frustrated when people complain about a lack of response, when
it's clear from any survey of the postings that if anybody has a clue,
there'll be plenty of response. So not getting a response usually just
means we don't know.

otoh, I don't really agree that he tried. I had gone back to his original
post and he said "all I get are gtk errors" - if he'd tried to run it and
seen _no_ errors, I'd have had a response for that, but since he did see
errors, it would have been really helpful to tell us what they were.
Post by Chris Neary
I was close - the answer is that the .deb file installs the Glade file
in /usr/share/gnaughty/glade/gnaughty.glade but the application looks
for it in /usr/local/share/gnaughty/glade/gnaughty.glade.
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sudo ln -s /usr/share/gnaughty/ /usr/local/share/gnaughty/
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And now that Chris has solved your problem, Jeremy, please file a bug report
so that the maintainer can fix it. I don't think that location is any more
correct in Debian than Ubuntu.
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