Ubuntu doesn't enter any WM except Gnome on Wayland

[Tedd M. V.]

Hello people.

I have a machine using Ubuntu 18.04 with the kernel 4.15.0-34-generic
using all the latest updates I have tried in the past to use another WM,
but every time and install one and reboot to select it at the login
screen it seems to load, a black screen appears and then the login
screen shows agains.

Some notes:

* I have tried to use KDE, lxde, xfce, i3, and xmonad.
* Unity and Gnome without Wayland also don't work.
* When the machine had few time after the update to 18.04 it was
possible to use Unity and non-Wayland Gnome, but I never used any
other WM.
* I believe it has something to do with the permissions, you see, in
the past I tried to use synaptic and run other programs as sudo, but it
didn't work if used under Wayland so someone on an official Ubuntu
forum said something about running this command 'xhost
si:localuser:root' and I think I also used with my normal user.
* Another user said something about editing config .name file, but I
don't remember which one, it was similar the command what I edited.

Thanks for your atention and I'm hoping you can help,
Tedd.
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[Rashkae]

Post by Tedd M. V.
Hello people.
I have a machine using Ubuntu 18.04 with the kernel 4.15.0-34-generic
using all the latest updates I have tried in the past to use another WM,
but every time and install one and reboot to select it at the login
screen it seems to load, a black screen appears and then the login
screen shows agains.

Try creating a new user and login to your alternate desktop as that
user. I'm not proposing this as the final fix, but it will at least
assure you that the system is working properly.


I suspect your problem is probably a .Xauthority file in your home
folder that is owned by root. You should be able to simply delete this
file and try again.

[Tedd M. V.]

Post by Rashkae

Post by Tedd M. V.
Hello people.
I have a machine using Ubuntu 18.04 with the kernel 4.15.0-34-generic
using all the latest updates I have tried in the past to use another WM,
but every time and install one and reboot to select it at the login
screen it seems to load, a black screen appears and then the login
screen shows agains.

Try creating a new user and login to your alternate desktop as that
user. I'm not proposing this as the final fix, but it will at least
assure you that the system is working properly.
I suspect your problem is probably a .Xauthority file in your home
folder that is owned by root. You should be able to simply delete this
file and try again.

Hi Rashkae, I tried both things, creating a new
accounts works :) but deleting the '.Xauthority' didn't do anything. Is
there other file that I should look at?

Thanks for help.
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[Rashkae]

Post by Tedd M. V.
Hi Rashkae, I tried both things, creating a new
accounts works :) but deleting the '.Xauthority' didn't do anything. Is
there other file that I should look at?
Thanks for help.

Sorry, I forgot to check on this thread... but I see so far you've tried
lots of the usual suspects.

Try the .ICEauthority (actually, I think that's the one I had a similar
problem with before, I just got them mixed up)

All I can suggest is to examine the /var/log/X.org.0.log file after a
failed attempt to log in for a hint.

If you are unable to find the relevant log file where the details of the
failure are recorded (there almost certainly is one, somewhere,), or if
the error message is just completely unhelpful, you can use the brute
force approach to troubleshooting.

Make a backup copy of your home folder, then start renaming . files and
directories (add a .bak extension, for example). until you find the culprit.

ex: mv .config .config.bak

[Bret Busby]

Post by Tedd M. V.
Hello people.
I have a machine using Ubuntu 18.04 with the kernel 4.15.0-34-generic
using all the latest updates I have tried in the past to use another WM,
but every time and install one and reboot to select it at the login
screen it seems to load, a black screen appears and then the login
screen shows agains.
* I have tried to use KDE, lxde, xfce, i3, and xmonad.
* Unity and Gnome without Wayland also don't work.
* When the machine had few time after the update to 18.04 it was
possible to use Unity and non-Wayland Gnome, but I never used any
other WM.
* I believe it has something to do with the permissions, you see, in
the past I tried to use synaptic and run other programs as sudo, but it
didn't work if used under Wayland so someone on an official Ubuntu
forum said something about running this command 'xhost
si:localuser:root' and I think I also used with my normal user.
* Another user said something about editing config .name file, but I
don't remember which one, it was similar the command what I edited.
Thanks for your atention and I'm hoping you can help,
Tedd.

I suggest stripping it and doing a clean install of UbubtuMATE 16.04.

UbuntuMATE 18.04 installed and runs okay (as much as it is, as it has
lost some of the packages that are present in 16.04), for me.

I use a Win95 appearance GUI on UbuntuMATE 16.04 and 18.04.
--
Bret Busby
Armadale
West Australia
..............

"So once you do know what the question actually is,
you'll know what the answer means."
- Deep Thought,
Chapter 28 of Book 1 of
"The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:
A Trilogy In Four Parts",
written by Douglas Adams,
published by Pan Books, 1992

....................................................

[Colin Law]

Post by Bret Busby

Post by Tedd M. V.
Hello people.
I have a machine using Ubuntu 18.04 with the kernel 4.15.0-34-generic
using all the latest updates I have tried in the past to use another WM,
but every time and install one and reboot to select it at the login
screen it seems to load, a black screen appears and then the login
screen shows agains.
* I have tried to use KDE, lxde, xfce, i3, and xmonad.
* Unity and Gnome without Wayland also don't work.
* When the machine had few time after the update to 18.04 it was
possible to use Unity and non-Wayland Gnome, but I never used any
other WM.
* I believe it has something to do with the permissions, you see, in
the past I tried to use synaptic and run other programs as sudo, but it
didn't work if used under Wayland so someone on an official Ubuntu
forum said something about running this command 'xhost
si:localuser:root' and I think I also used with my normal user.
* Another user said something about editing config .name file, but I
don't remember which one, it was similar the command what I edited.
Thanks for your atention and I'm hoping you can help,
Tedd.

I suggest stripping it and doing a clean install of UbubtuMATE 16.04.

Why? It all works with a different user, there is nothing fundamental wrong.

Colin

Post by Bret Busby
UbuntuMATE 18.04 installed and runs okay (as much as it is, as it has
lost some of the packages that are present in 16.04), for me.
I use a Win95 appearance GUI on UbuntuMATE 16.04 and 18.04.
--
Bret Busby
Armadale
West Australia
..............
"So once you do know what the question actually is,
you'll know what the answer means."
- Deep Thought,
Chapter 28 of Book 1 of
A Trilogy In Four Parts",
written by Douglas Adams,
published by Pan Books, 1992
....................................................
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[Bret Busby]

Post by Bret Busby

Post by Tedd M. V.
Hello people.
I have a machine using Ubuntu 18.04 with the kernel 4.15.0-34-generic
using all the latest updates I have tried in the past to use another WM,
but every time and install one and reboot to select it at the login
screen it seems to load, a black screen appears and then the login
screen shows agains.
* I have tried to use KDE, lxde, xfce, i3, and xmonad.
* Unity and Gnome without Wayland also don't work.
* When the machine had few time after the update to 18.04 it was
possible to use Unity and non-Wayland Gnome, but I never used any
other WM.
* I believe it has something to do with the permissions, you see, in
the past I tried to use synaptic and run other programs as sudo, but it
didn't work if used under Wayland so someone on an official Ubuntu
forum said something about running this command 'xhost
si:localuser:root' and I think I also used with my normal user.
* Another user said something about editing config .name file, but I
don't remember which one, it was similar the command what I edited.
Thanks for your atention and I'm hoping you can help,
Tedd.

I suggest stripping it and doing a clean install of UbubtuMATE 16.04.

I just noticed, in a reply to that, that I incorrectly put 16.04,
instead of 18.04.

Should have been 18.04....
--
Bret Busby
Armadale
West Australia
..............

"So once you do know what the question actually is,
you'll know what the answer means."
- Deep Thought,
Chapter 28 of Book 1 of
"The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:
A Trilogy In Four Parts",
written by Douglas Adams,
published by Pan Books, 1992

....................................................

[Tedd M. V.]

Post by Bret Busby

Post by Tedd M. V.
* I have tried to use KDE, lxde, xfce, i3, and xmonad.
* Unity and Gnome without Wayland also don't work.
* When the machine had few time after the update to 18.04 it was
possible to use Unity and non-Wayland Gnome, but I never used any
other WM.

I suggest stripping it and doing a clean install of UbubtuMATE 16.04.
UbuntuMATE 18.04 installed and runs okay (as much as it is, as it has
lost some of the packages that are present in 16.04), for me.
I use a Win95 appearance GUI on UbuntuMATE 16.04 and 18.04.
--
Bret Busby
Armadale
West Australia
..............
"So once you do know what the question actually is,
you'll know what the answer means."
- Deep Thought,
Chapter 28 of Book 1 of
A Trilogy In Four Parts",
written by Douglas Adams,
published by Pan Books, 1992
....................................................

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[Tedd M. V.]

Post by Bret Busby

Post by Tedd M. V.
* I have tried to use KDE, lxde, xfce, i3, and xmonad.
* Unity and Gnome without Wayland also don't work.
* When the machine had few time after the update to 18.04 it was
possible to use Unity and non-Wayland Gnome, but I never used any
other WM.

I suggest stripping it and doing a clean install of UbubtuMATE 16.04.
UbuntuMATE 18.04 installed and runs okay (as much as it is, as it has
lost some of the packages that are present in 16.04), for me.
I use a Win95 appearance GUI on UbuntuMATE 16.04 and 18.04.

I'm sorry to you and all the users, I send an email in blank...

Thanks, but I don't really need that, you see, MATE does not suit my
needs, I need a simple, stable, minimalistic WM like Xmonad or i3, with
good tiling, the WM you mention don't have that.

Tedd.
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[Bret Busby]

Post by Tedd M. V.

Post by Bret Busby

Post by Tedd M. V.
* I have tried to use KDE, lxde, xfce, i3, and xmonad.
* Unity and Gnome without Wayland also don't work.
* When the machine had few time after the update to 18.04 it was
possible to use Unity and non-Wayland Gnome, but I never used any
other WM.

I suggest stripping it and doing a clean install of UbubtuMATE 16.04.
UbuntuMATE 18.04 installed and runs okay (as much as it is, as it has
lost some of the packages that are present in 16.04), for me.
I use a Win95 appearance GUI on UbuntuMATE 16.04 and 18.04.

I'm sorry to you and all the users, I send an email in blank...
Thanks, but I don't really need that, you see, MATE does not suit my
needs, I need a simple, stable, minimalistic WM like Xmonad or i3, with
good tiling, the WM you mention don't have that.
Tedd.

Okay.

I also noticed, after I had posted my suggestion, that you apparently
want the Wayland thing, with which. I have no experience.
--
Bret Busby
Armadale
West Australia
..............

"So once you do know what the question actually is,
you'll know what the answer means."
- Deep Thought,
Chapter 28 of Book 1 of
"The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:
A Trilogy In Four Parts",
written by Douglas Adams,
published by Pan Books, 1992

....................................................

[Tedd M. V.]

Post by Bret Busby
I also noticed, after I had posted my suggestion, that you apparently
want the Wayland thing, with which. I have no experience.

As long as I can switch between Xmonad and any other classic WM (Gnome,
KDE) it really doesn't matter if it uses Wayland or X11, but wiping my
system completly is too radical. I think there most be something wrong
in a configuration file.

Thanks.
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[Colin Law]

Post by Tedd M. V.
Hello people.
I have a machine using Ubuntu 18.04 with the kernel 4.15.0-34-generic
using all the latest updates I have tried in the past to use another WM,
but every time and install one and reboot to select it at the login
screen it seems to load, a black screen appears and then the login
screen shows agains.

Change the ownership of all files in your home directory to yourself and
your group, which normally they should be anyway. Google will tell you how.

Colin

Post by Tedd M. V.
* I have tried to use KDE, lxde, xfce, i3, and xmonad.
* Unity and Gnome without Wayland also don't work.
* When the machine had few time after the update to 18.04 it was
possible to use Unity and non-Wayland Gnome, but I never used any
other WM.
* I believe it has something to do with the permissions, you see, in
the past I tried to use synaptic and run other programs as sudo, but it
didn't work if used under Wayland so someone on an official Ubuntu
forum said something about running this command 'xhost
si:localuser:root' and I think I also used with my normal user.
* Another user said something about editing config .name file, but I
don't remember which one, it was similar the command what I edited.
Thanks for your atention and I'm hoping you can help,
Tedd.
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[Tedd M. V.]

Post by Tedd M. V.
Hello people.
I have a machine using Ubuntu 18.04 with the kernel 4.15.0-34-generic
using all the latest updates I have tried in the past to use another WM,
but every time and install one and reboot to select it at the login
screen it seems to load, a black screen appears and then the login
screen shows agains.
Change the ownership of all files in your home directory to yourself and your group, which normally they should be anyway. Google will tell you how.
Colin

Hello Colin, I'm sorry but that didn't work either, I used 'sudo chowd -R
user ~/'.

Thanks.
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[Gene Heskett]

Post by Tedd M. V.

Post by Tedd M. V.
Hello people.
I have a machine using Ubuntu 18.04 with the kernel
4.15.0-34-generic using all the latest updates I have tried in the
past to use another WM, but every time and install one and reboot to
select it at the login screen it seems to load, a black screen
appears and then the login screen shows agains.
Change the ownership of all files in your home directory to yourself
and your group, which normally they should be anyway. Google will
tell you how.
Colin

Hello Colin, I'm sorry but that didn't work either, I used 'sudo chowd
-R user ~/'.
Thanks.

its a good thing you miss-spelled the command. If you had spelled it
right...

And you need to spec both user:group when it is spelled right. user is of
course your login name.
--
Cheers, Gene Heskett
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

[Tedd M. V.]

Post by Gene Heskett

Post by Tedd M. V.

Post by Tedd M. V.
Hello people.
I have a machine using Ubuntu 18.04 with the kernel
4.15.0-34-generic using all the latest updates I have tried in the
past to use another WM, but every time and install one and reboot to
select it at the login screen it seems to load, a black screen
appears and then the login screen shows agains.
Change the ownership of all files in your home directory to yourself
and your group, which normally they should be anyway. Google will
tell you how.
Colin

Hello Colin, I'm sorry but that didn't work either, I used 'sudo chowd
-R user ~/'.
Thanks.

its a good thing you miss-spelled the command. If you had spelled it
right...
And you need to spec both user:group when it is spelled right. user is of
course your login name.

Hi, I did write wrong but run it 'almost' correctly; but I'm sorry...which
group should I use?

The command 'groups' show me this:
tmv adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare debian-tor

Thanks.
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[Gene Heskett]

Post by Tedd M. V.

Post by Gene Heskett

Post by Tedd M. V.

Post by Tedd M. V.
Hello people.
I have a machine using Ubuntu 18.04 with the kernel
4.15.0-34-generic using all the latest updates I have tried in
the past to use another WM, but every time and install one and
reboot to select it at the login screen it seems to load, a black
screen appears and then the login screen shows agains.
Change the ownership of all files in your home directory to
yourself and your group, which normally they should be anyway.
Google will tell you how.
Colin

Hello Colin, I'm sorry but that didn't work either, I used 'sudo
chowd -R user ~/'.
Thanks.

its a good thing you miss-spelled the command. If you had spelled it
right...
And you need to spec both user:group when it is spelled right. user
is of course your login name.

Hi, I did write wrong but run it 'almost' correctly; but I'm
sorry...which group should I use?
tmv adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare debian-tor
Thanks.

Your installer didn't add you as a group? I don't believe I've ever
installed without getting that setup by the installer. I have some
stuff in a group sandbox, but if its missing, su to root and groupadd
your username should work, then your home/$user directory s/b owned by
$user:$user when you do an ls -l. Then, if your can't run something, add
your group to that somethings name in /etc/group. man pages can be
wonderfull sources of info about such things IF correctly written.
--
Cheers, Gene Heskett
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

[Tedd M. V.]

Post by Gene Heskett

Post by Tedd M. V.

Post by Gene Heskett

Post by Tedd M. V.

Post by Tedd M. V.
Hello people.
I have a machine using Ubuntu 18.04 with the kernel
4.15.0-34-generic using all the latest updates I have tried in
the past to use another WM, but every time and install one and
reboot to select it at the login screen it seems to load, a black
screen appears and then the login screen shows agains.
Change the ownership of all files in your home directory to
yourself and your group, which normally they should be anyway.
Google will tell you how.
Colin

Hello Colin, I'm sorry but that didn't work either, I used 'sudo
chowd -R user ~/'.
Thanks.

its a good thing you miss-spelled the command. If you had spelled it
right...
And you need to spec both user:group when it is spelled right. user
is of course your login name.

Hi, I did write wrong but run it 'almost' correctly; but I'm
sorry...which group should I use?
tmv adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare debian-tor
Thanks.

Your installer didn't add you as a group? I don't believe I've ever
installed without getting that setup by the installer. I have some
stuff in a group sandbox, but if its missing, su to root and groupadd
your username should work, then your home/$user directory s/b owned by
$user:$user when you do an ls -l. Then, if your can't run something, add
your group to that somethings name in /etc/group. man pages can be
wonderfull sources of info about such things IF correctly written.

Hi, thanks, the problem is my WM's so 'maybe' the users where wrong for
some error I did and that's why they recommended to check, but it's not
the main problem.
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[Oliver Grawert]

hi,

Post by Tedd M. V.
y...which
group should I use?
tmv adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare debian-tor

sudo chown -R tmv:tmv /home/tmv

ciao
oli

[Tedd M. V.]

Post by Oliver Grawert
hi,

Post by Tedd M. V.
y...which
group should I use?
tmv adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare debian-tor

sudo chown -R tmv:tmv /home/tmv
ciao
oli

Thanks, but my WM still doesn't work, seems like that wasn't the problem.
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[Colin Law]

Post by Tedd M. V.

Post by Oliver Grawert
hi,

Post by Tedd M. V.
y...which
group should I use?
tmv adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare debian-tor

sudo chown -R tmv:tmv /home/tmv
ciao
oli

Thanks, but my WM still doesn't work, seems like that wasn't the problem.

Were you asked earlier to look in .xsession-errors after failed login?

Colin

[Tedd M. V.]

Post by Colin Law
Were you asked earlier to look in .xsession-errors after failed login?
Colin

Nope, but here it is as an attachment, there was an old version, so I
also included it.

Thanks.

[Richard Kimber]

On Sun, 23 Sep 2018 21:59:45 -0500

Post by Colin Law
Were you asked earlier to look in .xsession-errors after failed login?
Colin

I think I have the same problem on my new 18.04.1 install on a new PC.
There are certainly errors in .xsession-errors:


mate-session[1954]: WARNING: Unable to find provider '' of required
component 'dock' Window manager warning: Log level 128: Name
com.canonical.AppMenu.Registrar does not exist on the session bus

Window manager warning: Log level 16: XPresent is not compatible with
your current system configuration.

(process:2465): indicator-sound-WARNING **: 09:27:21.493:
volume-control-pulse.vala:735: unable to get pulse unix socket:
GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name
org.PulseAudio1 was not provided by any .service files

(nm-applet:2451): Gtk-WARNING **: 09:27:21.623: Can't set a parent on
widget which has a parent Flag 0x0001, status 0, EXIT 1 STAT 0

(gkrellm:2453): GLib-CRITICAL **: 09:27:21.643: g_strstr_len: assertion
'haystack != NULL' failed Flag 0x0001, status 0, EXIT 1 STAT 0
RuntimeError: object at 0x7fb8816b0410 of type RenameMenu is not
initialized RuntimeError: object at 0x7fb88169df00 of type
FolderColorMenu is not initialized INFO:root:The HUD is disabled via
org.mate.hud in gsettings. Window manager warning: Buggy client sent a
_NET_ACTIVE_WINDOW message with a timestamp of 0 for 0x1e00008 ()
Window manager warning: meta_window_activate called by a pager with a 0
timestamp; the pager needs to be fixed. Window manager warning: Buggy
client sent a _NET_ACTIVE_WINDOW message with a timestamp of 0 for
0x1e00008 () Window manager warning: meta_window_activate called by a
pager with a 0 timestamp; the pager needs to be fixed. Window manager
warning: Buggy client sent a _NET_ACTIVE_WINDOW message with a
timestamp of 0 for 0x1e00008 () Window manager warning:
meta_window_activate called by a pager with a 0 timestamp; the pager
needs to be fixed.

This was after a reboot, following some sort of X failure (black
unresponsive screen)

- Richard

[Richard Kimber]

On Mon, 24 Sep 2018 09:56:30 +0100

Post by Richard Kimber
I think I have the same problem on my new 18.04.1 install on a new PC.

I should have said Ubuntu-Mate
- Richard

[Tedd M. V.]

Post by Richard Kimber
On Sun, 23 Sep 2018 21:59:45 -0500

Post by Colin Law
Were you asked earlier to look in .xsession-errors after failed login?
Colin

I think I have the same problem on my new 18.04.1 install on a new PC.
mate-session[1954]: WARNING: Unable to find provider '' of required
component 'dock' Window manager warning: Log level 128: Name
com.canonical.AppMenu.Registrar does not exist on the session bus
Window manager warning: Log level 16: XPresent is not compatible with
your current system configuration.
GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name
org.PulseAudio1 was not provided by any .service files
(nm-applet:2451): Gtk-WARNING **: 09:27:21.623: Can't set a parent on
widget which has a parent Flag 0x0001, status 0, EXIT 1 STAT 0
(gkrellm:2453): GLib-CRITICAL **: 09:27:21.643: g_strstr_len: assertion
'haystack != NULL' failed Flag 0x0001, status 0, EXIT 1 STAT 0
RuntimeError: object at 0x7fb8816b0410 of type RenameMenu is not
initialized RuntimeError: object at 0x7fb88169df00 of type
FolderColorMenu is not initialized INFO:root:The HUD is disabled via
org.mate.hud in gsettings. Window manager warning: Buggy client sent a
_NET_ACTIVE_WINDOW message with a timestamp of 0 for 0x1e00008 ()
Window manager warning: meta_window_activate called by a pager with a 0
timestamp; the pager needs to be fixed. Window manager warning: Buggy
client sent a _NET_ACTIVE_WINDOW message with a timestamp of 0 for
0x1e00008 () Window manager warning: meta_window_activate called by a
pager with a 0 timestamp; the pager needs to be fixed. Window manager
warning: Buggy client sent a _NET_ACTIVE_WINDOW message with a
meta_window_activate called by a pager with a 0 timestamp; the pager
needs to be fixed.
This was after a reboot, following some sort of X failure (black
unresponsive screen)
- Richard

That's interesting, you see, back when selecting another window manager
worked I used REISUB a couple times because U use too much programs at
the same time, maybe that affected something but I cannot assure it
started happening after those reboots.
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[Colin Law]

Post by Colin Law

Post by Tedd M. V.
Hello people.
I have a machine using Ubuntu 18.04 with the kernel 4.15.0-34-generic
using all the latest updates I have tried in the past to use another WM,
but every time and install one and reboot to select it at the login
screen it seems to load, a black screen appears and then the login
screen shows agains.
Change the ownership of all files in your home directory to yourself and

your group, which normally they should be anyway. Google will tell you how.

Post by Tedd M. V.
Colin

Hello Colin, I'm sorry but that didn't work either, I used 'sudo chowd -R
user ~/'.

sudo chown -R username:username /home/username

Colin

Post by Colin Law
Thanks.
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[Tedd M. V.]

Post by Tedd M. V.
Hello Colin, I'm sorry but that didn't work either, I used 'sudo chowd -R
user ~/'.
sudo chown -R username:username /home/username
Colin

Well...thanks, but fucking WM still doesn't wanna work, I think I'm
gonna ask on the mailing lists of Xmonad and link this discussion, maybe
them who work directly on X related project know about this...maybe it's
a bug...

Thanks for all your help.
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[Oliver Grawert]

hi,

Post by Tedd M. V.
 
* I believe it has something to do with the permissions, you see, in
  the past I tried to use synaptic and run other programs as sudo,
but it
  didn't work if used under Wayland so someone on an official Ubuntu
  forum said something about running this command 'xhost
  si:localuser:root' and I think I also used with my normal user.

this is desired behaviour by design of the GNOME/wayland developers:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1274451

apps using sudo or the graphical equivalent will not work under
wayland, they need to be re-written to operate as frontend and backend
processes (so the graphical part always runs as user whle the backend
can elevate its permissions on demand) 

ciao
oli

[Tedd M. V.]

Post by Oliver Grawert
hi,

Post by Tedd M. V.
 
* I believe it has something to do with the permissions, you see, in
  the past I tried to use synaptic and run other programs as sudo,
but it
  didn't work if used under Wayland so someone on an official Ubuntu
  forum said something about running this command 'xhost
  si:localuser:root' and I think I also used with my normal user.

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1274451
apps using sudo or the graphical equivalent will not work under
wayland, they need to be re-written to operate as frontend and backend
processes (so the graphical part always runs as user whle the backend
can elevate its permissions on demand) 
ciao
oli

Wow, I didn't knew that, does Wayland provide any way to run this
programs on some sort of special mode? What does that command did?
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O-- M- V- PS++ PE Y+ PGP++ t+ 5 X+ R tv- b+++ DI-- D+
G++ e* h! r- z*
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GPG: 37219EA0D04C8D3C
Keybase: tmv
Ring: tmv
Cryptocat: tmv
Bitmessage: BM-2cSx4RVaXbRvWmPtRsdoW25f8wipSMVRAG
Signal: Upon request | Bajo solicitación