modeset(0): Modeline "1680x1050"x0.0

[Chris]

Since update to 18.04.1LTS in Aug periodically what's shown here
https://pastebin.com/CNYfj6xB
gets output to syslog. I can see that it appears to be informational or
at least I assume that's what the (II) stands for. I can find nothing
that actually causes it. At first I thought it was possibly the XFE
file browser as it seemed to show up when bringing it up but that's
been proven not true. It's not hurting anything I'm just curious what's
the cause. Didn't happen with 16.04LTS.
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Post by Chris
Since update to 18.04.1LTS in Aug periodically what's shown here
https://pastebin.com/CNYfj6xB
gets output to syslog. I can see that it appears to be informational or
at least I assume that's what the (II) stands for. I can find nothing
that actually causes it. At first I thought it was possibly the XFE
file browser as it seemed to show up when bringing it up but that's
been proven not true. It's not hurting anything I'm just curious what's
the cause. Didn't happen with 16.04LTS.

I posted this almost a week ago and have not seen any replies
whatsoever so I'm going to have to assume that either 1)no one has any
idea what I'm talking about or 2)it was just too dumb of a question. I
know it made it to the list because it's in the archive.
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Post by Chris
I posted this almost a week ago and have not seen any replies
whatsoever so I'm going to have to assume that either 1)no one has any
idea what I'm talking about or 2)it was just too dumb of a question.

Apply Hanlon's Razor. :-)

Post by Chris
I
know it made it to the list because it's in the archive.

OK, lacking any particular specialist knowledge, it looks like it's
periodically re-detecting your monitor.

So...

* Check your cable is securely connected! (Start with the simplest
possible stuff)

What graphics controller do you have?
What monitor?
What kind of connection?
Do you have any alternatives to hand?

And my regular favourite:

Have you tried updating your firmware?
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Post by Chris
I posted this almost a week ago and have not seen any replies
whatsoever so I'm going to have to assume that either 1)no one has any
idea what I'm talking about or 2)it was just too dumb of a
question.

Apply Hanlon's Razor. :-)

Post by Chris
I
know it made it to the list because it's in the archive.

OK, lacking any particular specialist knowledge, it looks like it's
periodically re-detecting your monitor.
So...
* Check your cable is securely connected! (Start with the simplest
possible stuff)

Done, blew out both connectors and reattached

Post by Liam Proven
What graphics controller do you have?

00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 4 Series Chipset
Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation 4 Series Chipset
Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)

Post by Liam Proven
What monitor?

Manufacturer: ACR Model 16 Serial Number 2170562977
Made week 16 of 2008
EDID version: 1.3
Analog display, Input voltage level: 0.7/0.7 V
Sync: Separate
Maximum image size: 47 cm x 30 cm
Gamma: 2.20
DPMS levels: Standby Suspend
RGB color display

(Probably too much info)

Post by Liam Proven
What kind of connection?

VGA

Post by Liam Proven
Do you have any alternatives to hand?

Nope, only monitor I have

Post by Liam Proven
Have you tried updating your firmware?

firmware version shown via apt-search linux-firmware
apt search linux-firmware
Sorting... Done
Full Text Search... Done
linux-firmware/bionic-updates,bionic-updates,bionic-security,bionic-
security,now 1.173.1 all [installed,automatic]

Installed version
apt-cache policy linux-firmware
linux-firmware:
Installed: 1.173.1
Candidate: 1.173.1
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On Thu, 15 Nov 2018 at 23:19, Chris <***@gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks for getting back to me, but these are not really full answers,
I'm afraid.

Post by Chris
Done, blew out both connectors and reattached

OK. You said later it was a VGA cable. People throw those out by the
dozen now; most monitors come with them but they are a bad, *bad*
choice for an LCD, because the display is digital but the cable is
analogue.

Have you got a spare?

Post by Chris

Post by Liam Proven
What graphics controller do you have?

00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 4 Series Chipset
Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation 4 Series Chipset
Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)

That doesn't really tell me much except it's a built-in GPU on an Intel chip.

What chip? What motherboard? What computer? What ports does it have?

Post by Chris
Manufacturer: ACR Model 16 Serial Number 2170562977]

Yeah, that does not answer the question.

What make and model is it?

Post by Chris
(Probably too much info)

No, too little.

Look at the label on the front and back of the screen. Don't rely on
stuff the computer tells you.

Post by Chris

Post by Liam Proven
What kind of connection?

VGA

That's a problem.

Possibly the big one.

Does your PC have other ports?
Does the monitor?
What? List them, all, on both ends, separately.

Post by Chris

Post by Liam Proven
Have you tried updating your firmware?

firmware version shown via apt-search linux-firmware

That stuff is irrelevant.

Look up what motherboard you have. Go to the manufacturer's website.
Find what the latest version is.

Reboot your PC. Go into the firmware settings. See what version it is.

See if it is on an older version than you can download.
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Post by Liam Proven
Thanks for getting back to me, but these are not really full answers,
I'm afraid.

Post by Chris
Done, blew out both connectors and reattached

OK. You said later it was a VGA cable. People throw those out by the
dozen now; most monitors come with them but they are a bad, *bad*
choice for an LCD, because the display is digital but the cable is
analogue.
Have you got a spare?

Installed new VGA cable today, no change.

Post by Liam Proven

Post by Chris

Post by Liam Proven
What graphics controller do you have?

00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 4 Series Chipset
Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation 4 Series Chipset
Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)

That doesn't really tell me much except it's a built-in GPU on an Intel chip.
What chip? What motherboard? What computer? What ports does it have?

Chipset
Intel Q45 Express Chipset w/ICH10DO

Can't find info on the MB at the Dell site

Dell Optiplex 780

Video:
VGA 1 Rear
DVI-I Optional via add-in card
DisplayPort 1 Rear

Post by Liam Proven

Post by Chris
Manufacturer: ACR Model 16 Serial Number 2170562977]

Yeah, that does not answer the question.
What make and model is it?

Post by Chris
(Probably too much info)

No, too little.
Look at the label on the front and back of the screen. Don't rely on
stuff the computer tells you.

Acer P221W

Post by Liam Proven

Post by Chris

Post by Liam Proven
What kind of connection?

VGA

That's a problem.
Possibly the big one.
Does your PC have other ports?

Yes, DisplayPort

Post by Liam Proven
Does the monitor?

Yes DVI

Post by Liam Proven
What? List them, all, on both ends, separately.

Post by Chris

Post by Liam Proven
Have you tried updating your firmware?

firmware version shown via apt-search linux-firmware

That stuff is irrelevant.
Look up what motherboard you have. Go to the manufacturer's website.
Find what the latest version is.
Reboot your PC. Go into the firmware settings. See what version it is.

I've updated that a few years ago to the latest A15 for the 780. I've
checked today and there is nothing newer.

I've spent most all day on the Dell site and on Google. I have these
manuals

optiplex-780_service manual2_en-us.pdf
optiplex_780_tech_guidebook_en.pdf
optiplex-780-tech-guide.pdf

I've also got the Dell Diagnostics DVD
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Post by Chris

Post by Liam Proven
Have you got a spare?

Installed new VGA cable today, no change.

That's a pity but was worth a try.

Post by Chris
Dell Optiplex 780

OK. I Found specs via Google here:

https://www.cnet.com/products/dell-optiplex-780-core-2-duo-e8400-3-ghz-monitor-none-series/specs/

Post by Chris
Acer P221W

OK. Again, specs:

https://www.cnet.com/products/acer-p221w-lcd-monitor/specs/

So they both should have DVI ports.

Using a DVI-DVI cable will give you a better, sharper picture and I
suspect it may well resolve this re-detection problem.

I don't know where in the world you are, but a DVI-DVI cable should
cost about GBP 3 or USD 4, which is a pretty modest investment. There
is also a good chance one came in the monitor's box, or that you can
find one in a junk bin if you have a local computer store.

Post by Chris
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Aha! I didn't see this before.

North of Austin, TX?

Getting a cable should be pretty easy, then.

BTW, the latest BIOS seems to be A15 from September 2013, so that is
unlikely to help anything much...
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Post by Liam Proven

Post by Chris

Post by Liam Proven
Have you got a spare?

Installed new VGA cable today, no change.

That's a pity but was worth a try.

Post by Chris
Dell Optiplex 780

https://www.cnet.com/products/dell-optiplex-780-core-2-duo-e8400-3-ghz-monitor-none-series/specs/

Post by Liam Proven

Post by Chris
Acer P221W

https://www.cnet.com/products/acer-p221w-lcd-monitor/specs/
So they both should have DVI ports.

Only the monitor, the Dell has VGA and DisplayPort

https://photos.app.goo.gl/vVXSmLbKQXrSZ2po9 photo of back panel

https://photos.app.goo.gl/JNiYbQkzdwpf6XRW7 From manual showing ports

Post by Liam Proven
Using a DVI-DVI cable will give you a better, sharper picture and I
suspect it may well resolve this re-detection problem.

I'll go ahead and order a DisplayPort -> DVI cable from Amazon and see
what happens. Should have it by Wed.

Post by Liam Proven
I don't know where in the world you are, but a DVI-DVI cable should
cost about GBP 3 or USD 4, which is a pretty modest investment. There
is also a good chance one came in the monitor's box, or that you can
find one in a junk bin if you have a local computer store.

Being a 'Military Town' most all stores of any type around here are
rip-offs. My best bet as I said above is Amazon.

Post by Liam Proven

Post by Chris
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Aha! I didn't see this before.
North of Austin, TX?

Correct, live it Copperas Cove, Tx right next to a major Army base, Ft.
Hood.

Post by Liam Proven
Getting a cable should be pretty easy, then.

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Post by Chris

Post by Liam Proven
So they both should have DVI ports.

Only the monitor, the Dell has VGA and DisplayPort
https://photos.app.goo.gl/vVXSmLbKQXrSZ2po9 photo of back panel

That's a bit too close to tell.

I saw something that hinted that the DVI port might be an optional
thing on a riser card. Perhaps you don't have that -- or it's lying
forgotten in a box somewhere?

Post by Chris
https://photos.app.goo.gl/JNiYbQkzdwpf6XRW7 From manual showing ports

That's a slightly odd combination -- a parallel port (old tech) and a
DisplayPort (new tech) but no DVI (intermediate in age between the
previous ones).

Post by Chris
I'll go ahead and order a DisplayPort -> DVI cable from Amazon and see
what happens. Should have it by Wed.

Good plan.

Post by Chris
Being a 'Military Town' most all stores of any type around here are
rip-offs. My best bet as I said above is Amazon.

OK. I wouldn't know, I am a Brit in the Czech Republic. The only US
city I know at all is NYC and I've only been there twice.
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Post by Liam Proven

Post by Chris

Post by Liam Proven
So they both should have DVI ports.

Only the monitor, the Dell has VGA and DisplayPort
https://photos.app.goo.gl/vVXSmLbKQXrSZ2po9 photo of back panel

That's a bit too close to tell.
I saw something that hinted that the DVI port might be an optional
thing on a riser card. Perhaps you don't have that -- or it's lying
forgotten in a box somewhere?

From the Tech Guidebook for the 780 -

DVI-I Optional via add-in card

Post by Liam Proven

Post by Chris
https://photos.app.goo.gl/JNiYbQkzdwpf6XRW7 From manual showing ports

That's a slightly odd combination -- a parallel port (old tech) and a
DisplayPort (new tech) but no DVI (intermediate in age between the
previous ones).

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Post by Chris
Since update to 18.04.1LTS in Aug periodically what's shown here
https://pastebin.com/CNYfj6xB
gets output to syslog.

Did you tell us how often it is happening? I don't know whether you
suspend the PC but if you do then I think it will happen on resume.
Run
tail -f /var/log/syslog | grep -i modeline
and leave the terminal open. See if it happens when you do something
in particular.

I am seeing a number of these each day, looking at the log, I am
running the command to see when it happens here.

Colin




I can see that it appears to be informational or

Post by Chris
at least I assume that's what the (II) stands for. I can find nothing
that actually causes it. At first I thought it was possibly the XFE
file browser as it seemed to show up when bringing it up but that's
been proven not true. It's not hurting anything I'm just curious what's
the cause. Didn't happen with 16.04LTS.
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Post by Colin Law

Post by Chris
Since update to 18.04.1LTS in Aug periodically what's shown here
https://pastebin.com/CNYfj6xB
gets output to syslog.

Did you tell us how often it is happening? I don't know whether you
suspend the PC but if you do then I think it will happen on resume.
Run
tail -f /var/log/syslog | grep -i modeline
and leave the terminal open. See if it happens when you do something
in particular.

It's hard to reproduce Colin. No, PC doesn't suspend. I run tail -f on
my syslog each morning when I get up and let it run like that until I
call it a night. The PC stays on 24/7 however. For instance just now I
quit and restarted Evo

Nov 20 10:54:31 localhost /usr/lib/gdm3/gdm-x-session[2192]: (II)
modeset(0): EDID vendor "ACR", prod id 22
Nov 20 10:54:31 localhost /usr/lib/gdm3/gdm-x-session[2192]: (II)
modeset(0): Using hsync ranges from config file
Nov 20 10:54:31 localhost /usr/lib/gdm3/gdm-x-session[2192]: (II)
modeset(0): Using vrefresh ranges from config file
Nov 20 10:54:31 localhost /usr/lib/gdm3/gdm-x-session[2192]: (II)
modeset(0): Printing DDC gathered Modelines:

I just shut down Firefox, it happened, restarted Firefox, did not
happen. Shut Firefox down again, it did not happen. Started Firefox
again, it happened. Started XFE, did not happen, closed XFE it
happened. So, as you can see it appears to be very, very random as to
when it happens. I run logcheck every hour and I can safely say that
immediately after my upgrade to 18.04LTS on Aug 16th this appeared in
my syslog.

Post by Colin Law
I am seeing a number of these each day, looking at the log, I am
running the command to see when it happens here.

Glad you said you're seeing the same thing on your end. I was beginning
to think that I was the only person in the whole world that saw this.
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Post by Colin Law

Post by Chris
Since update to 18.04.1LTS in Aug periodically what's shown here
https://pastebin.com/CNYfj6xB
gets output to syslog.

Did you tell us how often it is happening? I don't know whether you
suspend the PC but if you do then I think it will happen on resume.
Run
tail -f /var/log/syslog | grep -i modeline
and leave the terminal open. See if it happens when you do something
in particular.
I am seeing a number of these each day, looking at the log, I am
running the command to see when it happens here.
Colin

I forgot to mention that I've filed these bug reports about this:

https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gdm/issues/418
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107841
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/1788739
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Post by Colin Law

Post by Chris
Since update to 18.04.1LTS in Aug periodically what's shown here
https://pastebin.com/CNYfj6xB
gets output to syslog.

Did you tell us how often it is happening? I don't know whether you
suspend the PC but if you do then I think it will happen on resume.
Run
tail -f /var/log/syslog | grep -i modeline
and leave the terminal open. See if it happens when you do something
in particular.
I am seeing a number of these each day, looking at the log, I am
running the command to see when it happens here.
Colin

Since my posts never make it back to me for some unknown reason I'll
have to again reply to this. While I was gone this morning and the PC
was idle, no applications were being started/stopped, the modeset info
was written to syslog:

Nov 21 10:32:20 localhost /usr/lib/gdm3/gdm-x-session[2285]: (II)
modeset(0): EDID vendor "ACR", prod id 22
.....
Nov 21 10:32:23 localhost /usr/lib/gdm3/gdm-x-session[2285]: (II)
modeset(0): Modeline "1280x720"x60.0

It was actually written 4 times in 3sec.
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Post by Chris
Since my posts never make it back to me for some unknown reason

Normal behavious for Gmail.

Post by Chris
I'll
have to again reply to this. While I was gone this morning and the PC
was idle, no applications were being started/stopped, the modeset info

I can see it would be annoying but are there any harmful side-effects?
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Post by Chris
I'll
have to again reply to this. While I was gone this morning and the PC
was idle, no applications were being started/stopped, the modeset info

I can see it would be annoying but are there any harmful side-
effects?

None at all actually. Just as you said, it's annoying. I got my new
cable just now and I'll put it on later this afternoon. I'll be
surprised if going from DisplayPort to DVI will have any effect.
But, I'll let you know either way.
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Post by Liam Proven

Post by Chris
Since my posts never make it back to me for some unknown reason

Normal behavious for Gmail.

Post by Chris
I'll
have to again reply to this. While I was gone this morning and the PC
was idle, no applications were being started/stopped, the modeset info

I can see it would be annoying but are there any harmful side-
effects?

The DisplayPort (PC) -> DVI (Monitor) made absolutely no difference

Nov 21 16:25:50 localhost /usr/lib/gdm3/gdm-x-session[2251]: (II)
modeset(0): EDID vendor "ACR", prod id 22
...
Nov 21 16:25:57 localhost /usr/lib/gdm3/gdm-x-session[2251]: (II)
modeset(0): Modeline "1280x720"x60.0

Guess I'm stuck with it unless someone else with this has an answer.
Personally I just don't like something in my syslog that I can't figure
out why it's there.
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Post by Chris
The DisplayPort (PC) -> DVI (Monitor) made absolutely no difference

Oh dear. I'm sorry to hear that. Can you at least see a sharper image?
I can tell the difference between an LCD over VGA and over a digital
connection, and my eyes are poor.

Post by Chris
Guess I'm stuck with it unless someone else with this has an answer.
Personally I just don't like something in my syslog that I can't figure
out why it's there.

I sympathise but I fear you are...

Silly question. You *did* remove the VGA cable, right?

Another one springs to mind: does the monitor have the ability to
autosense which port it's connected by? If so, you might want to turn
that off. Perhaps the current port drops out for a fraction of a
second while it scans the other ones, and that makes Linux re-detect
it...
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Post by Liam Proven

Post by Chris
The DisplayPort (PC) -> DVI (Monitor) made absolutely no difference

Oh dear. I'm sorry to hear that. Can you at least see a sharper image?
I can tell the difference between an LCD over VGA and over a digital
connection, and my eyes are poor.

To be honest no I can't tell the difference however my eyes aren't the
greatest either. Possibly if I tried a different Gnome theme I'd be
able to.

Post by Liam Proven

Post by Chris
Guess I'm stuck with it unless someone else with this has an
answer.
Personally I just don't like something in my syslog that I can't figure
out why it's there.

I sympathise but I fear you are...
Silly question. You *did* remove the VGA cable, right?

Yep :)

Post by Liam Proven
Another one springs to mind: does the monitor have the ability to
autosense which port it's connected by? If so, you might want to turn
that off. Perhaps the current port drops out for a fraction of a
second while it scans the other ones, and that makes Linux re-detect
it...

That I'm not sure of however the question comes to mind that why did
this only start when I upgraded from 16.04.5LTS to 18.04.1LTS? In fact
it started as soon as I booted into the new version.

Do you see anything in the ~/.local/share/xorg/Xorg.0.log -
https://pastebin.com/xdP4GY6G that could be the cause?
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Post by Liam Proven
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Subject: Quantal - unable to set screen resolution
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I installed 12.10 on my machine tonight - happily, in a separate
partition, replacing my old 11.10 install and leaving 12.04 in place.
I say happily because it's not working very well.
Firstly, the nVidia drivers wouldn't work. Trying to change or remove
them without a window manager was... /challenging/ but fortunately I
could open a terminal with Ctrl-Alt-t, even though I had no menu bar
or launcher.
Some digging around on the command line suggested that
gnome-control-center might be the "system settings" control panel.
(Why not call it "control centre" if that's its name?)
Anyway, I ran that, went to Software Sources, tried all the 4 nVidia
drivers on offer - current, current-updates, 304 and 310 - none
worked. I went back to Nouveau but now that only gave me 640*480 and
no ability to change.
http://techhamlet.com/2012/11/install-nvidia-drivers-in-ubuntu-12-10/
This enabled me to remove and reinstall them in a working manner.
Now I have my main screen running at 1600*1200 again.
The snag is, my second screen, the right-hand one, is stuck at
640*480.
I can find no way to change this - nVidia-settings seems to think this
is all it can do.
I think I know why; the right-hand screen is connected with BNC plugs,
the left hand one with a VGA-VGA cable. This means no EDID data is
getting back to the graphics card.
However, that doesn't help me. It worked fine in 12.04 and 11.10!
Anyone got any ideas how to fix this?
I don't have a spare VGA-VGA cable, but I will see if I can get one
and swap over... that might help. BNC gives better image quality,
though.

I found the issue in the Xorg log. Not letting my eye wander further
than what I 'thought' I was looking for screwed me up. I put this in
pastebin
Nov 16 15:08 Xorg.0.log
whereas I should have put this in (I did a shutdown and restart a bit
earlier this afternoon to see if there were any changes to the log but
of course I shut down before changing the cable on Wed also. Just me
looking at the wrong Xorg* log file.
Nov 23 14:41 Xorg.1.log

The updated log file is here - https://pastebin.com/2DQLqtXz The
Xorg.0.log file shows
104.195] (II) modeset(0): Analog Display Input, Input Voltage Level:
0.700/0.700 V
the Xorg.1.log file shows
187.536] (II) modeset(0): Digital Display Input

So, it does sense the new cable. Why the Xorg.0.log is not being
renamed to .1 and a new .0 log created is beyond me but it's not.
Possibly if I delete (usually I just move to another folder somewhere
until I know it's safe to delete something like this) the .0 log from
16 Nov will be recreated?

I hate that my initial post or replies never make it back to me here on
the list. There's got to be a setting somewhere in Gmail however I see
that others use Gmail and their posts make it to the list just fine.
--
Chris
31.11972; -97.90167 (Elev. 1092 ft)
14:47:05 up 12 min, 1 user, load average: 1.44, 2.41, 2.16
Description: Ubuntu 18.04.1 LTS, kernel 4.15.0-39-generic

[Colin Law]

Post by Chris
...
I hate that my initial post or replies never make it back to me here on
the list. There's got to be a setting somewhere in Gmail however I see
that others use Gmail and their posts make it to the list just fine.

Have you got threading enabled in gmail? I certainly see my own posts
in the thread, though I am not sure whether my original post appears
until after someone replies.

Colin

[Chris]

Post by Colin Law

Post by Chris
...
I hate that my initial post or replies never make it back to me here on
the list. There's got to be a setting somewhere in Gmail however I see
that others use Gmail and their posts make it to the list just fine.

Have you got threading enabled in gmail? I certainly see my own posts
in the thread, though I am not sure whether my original post appears
until after someone replies.

Doesn't matter if I select 'group by threads' or not they still don't
show up on my end.

Post by Colin Law
Colin

--
Chris
31.11972; -97.90167 (Elev. 1092 ft)
16:27:36 up 1:53, 1 user, load average: 2.71, 1.87, 1.04
Description: Ubuntu 18.04.1 LTS, kernel 4.15.0-39-generic

[Chris]

Post by Colin Law

Post by Chris
...
I hate that my initial post or replies never make it back to me here on
the list. There's got to be a setting somewhere in Gmail however I see
that others use Gmail and their posts make it to the list just fine.

Have you got threading enabled in gmail? I certainly see my own posts
in the thread, though I am not sure whether my original post appears
until after someone replies.
Colin

Apologies for the 2nd reply to Colin's post. I noticed in my Evo setup
that I didn't have my Gmail IMAP account checked in my account settings
but did have my POP account checked. Since I use the IMAP account now I
checked it and now have a Gmail folder below my other account folders
same as my other account IMAP setup. All my posts to the list are shown
in that inbox so I'll see what happens when I post this. If that
doesn't work I'll see what else I can figure out.
--
Chris
31.11972; -97.90167 (Elev. 1092 ft)
17:18:32 up 2:44, 1 user, load average: 0.69, 0.47, 0.56
Description: Ubuntu 18.04.1 LTS, kernel 4.15.0-39-generic

[Colin Law]

Post by Chris

Post by Colin Law

Post by Chris
...
I hate that my initial post or replies never make it back to me here on
the list. There's got to be a setting somewhere in Gmail however I see
that others use Gmail and their posts make it to the list just fine.

Have you got threading enabled in gmail? I certainly see my own posts
in the thread, though I am not sure whether my original post appears
until after someone replies.
Colin

Apologies for the 2nd reply to Colin's post. I noticed in my Evo setup
that I didn't have my Gmail IMAP account checked in my account settings
but did have my POP account checked. Since I use the IMAP account now I
checked it and now have a Gmail folder below my other account folders
same as my other account IMAP setup. All my posts to the list are shown
in that inbox so I'll see what happens when I post this. If that
doesn't work I'll see what else I can figure out.

I was referring to the web interface to gmail.

Colin

[Chris Pollock]

Post by Colin Law

Post by Chris

Post by Colin Law

Post by Chris
...
I hate that my initial post or replies never make it back to me here on
the list. There's got to be a setting somewhere in Gmail
however I
see
that others use Gmail and their posts make it to the list just fine.

Have you got threading enabled in gmail? I certainly see my own posts
in the thread, though I am not sure whether my original post appears
until after someone replies.
Colin

Apologies for the 2nd reply to Colin's post. I noticed in my Evo setup
that I didn't have my Gmail IMAP account checked in my account settings
but did have my POP account checked. Since I use the IMAP account now I
checked it and now have a Gmail folder below my other account folders
same as my other account IMAP setup. All my posts to the list are shown
in that inbox so I'll see what happens when I post this. If that
doesn't work I'll see what else I can figure out.

I was referring to the web interface to gmail.
Colin

Didn't realize that, I've switched back to my other address for now.

[Liam Proven]

Post by Chris
I found the issue in the Xorg log. Not letting my eye wander further
than what I 'thought' I was looking for screwed me up. I put this in
pastebin
Nov 16 15:08 Xorg.0.log
whereas I should have put this in (I did a shutdown and restart a bit
earlier this afternoon to see if there were any changes to the log but
of course I shut down before changing the cable on Wed also. Just me
looking at the wrong Xorg* log file.
Nov 23 14:41 Xorg.1.log
The updated log file is here - https://pastebin.com/2DQLqtXz The
Xorg.0.log file shows
0.700/0.700 V
the Xorg.1.log file shows
187.536] (II) modeset(0): Digital Display Input
So, it does sense the new cable.

Aha! Great!

So that's a step forward, at least.

Post by Chris
Why the Xorg.0.log is not being
renamed to .1 and a new .0 log created is beyond me but it's not.
Possibly if I delete (usually I just move to another folder somewhere
until I know it's safe to delete something like this) the .0 log from
16 Nov will be recreated?

Logrotate may help...

https://www.rosehosting.com/blog/how-to-use-logrotate-to-manage-logs-on-ubuntu/

Post by Chris
I hate that my initial post or replies never make it back to me here on
the list. There's got to be a setting somewhere in Gmail however I see
that others use Gmail and their posts make it to the list just fine.

Normal Gmail feature. It doesn't display mails you apparently sent to
yourself. *But* if someone replies to it, it should appear in the
thread.
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